I am discouraged. All my energies were put into this PhotoReading system. It yielded no results. How can blurring your eyes and focusing on the corners of each page allow you to process information! Its ludicrous! I guess i fell for the scam.

hm, perhaps you are too closed minded. Im sorry you feel that way, cuz it works for us.

you probably work for them... photoreading is a load of crap. it's creaters are all crooks.

sorry you feel that way.

Philips,

It is unfortunate you are not seeing satisfying results with PhotoReading yet.

Your negative posts are not acceptable.

I attempted to email you directly, but your email bounces back undeliverable.

For free personal one-on-one coaching, email me directly. DanaH@LearningStrategies.com mailto:danaH@LearningStrategies.com

[This message has been edited by Dana Hanson (edited June 28, 2002).]

Yes, they're such crooks that if you're unsatisfied, they're giving you the chance to return it for your money back.

I wish the people that stole my stuff gave me such a guarantee.

Mastermind doesn't work for LSC, and neither do any the people here (except Dana). Throwing accussations around won't make you a better reader.

LSC offers free coaching, and if you ultimately give up, will give you your money back.

Crooks should be so generous.

-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com

[This message has been edited by razordu30 (edited June 28, 2002).]

Works fine for me. I don't work for them; I'm from Canada. And I can't vouch for Paul's crookedness but the PR is the one thing I've paid for in years that's worth every cent. That's high praise from me because I'm the world's meanest cheapskate.

Works for me or should I say, I work fine with the system? Anyhow, I'm from Australia. If this is a scam I love it, best money I've ever spent

Alex

well maybe everyone who has ever taught or studied preconcious processing was scamming too, do you think so? ill tell you why so many people are getting into the system. IT WORKS! nobody running a scam could possibly spread so far and have so much success without someone "exposing" them. let me ask you a question, how long did it take you in school to learn how to read english? more than a year, and thats with school 5 days a week. go through each step of the system carefully in order to make sure you dont misunderstand anything 5 days a week for a year and see if you dont succeed. ok, you dont have to do this but im just trying to show you how it cant be easy to learn something completely new, especially(spectation) if you have a doubtful attitude. sure, i may be naive but i recognize a good offer when i see one. photoreading offers a money back guarantee which can be extended for 6 months! you could almost learn the system by then depending on the person and how much effort you put into it. The reason not many people get their money back is because they can tell that if it doesnt work, its their fault. you can fix this. use the forum or talk to dana if you have any problems. BTW hundreds of people writing messages on the forum every single day, and we all work for them? we get paid to invent our problems and put them on the board just so people think its legit? hah i wish there was such a job out there. good luck with whatever path you choose.

Thanks for your post Philips!

Nice to know someone out there is still skeptical about things that seem to good to be true.

I WAS too. Not anymore.

I don't believe you ever tried the course. Someone who doesn't get the same results as thousands of others. And, then tries to get those who are getting results to change their mind. You are scamming us into believing that your results really happened.

-CS

I have owned the course for just under 1 year and I've had no results from it yet (apart from the dictionary game, in which I got a score of 9/15 on my first go). I haven't had any results because there simply aren't enough hours in the day to put the practise in. I've no doubt that if I could spend the time to practise, I would master the system eventually.

I'm reading Tony Buzan's books at the moment. A good one to read is "Head Strong" because it explains how the brain works and shows how what we have been taught in school is nowhere near the full potential of the brain. Now, he doesn't mention Photoreading in the books but from what he writes, you can see how it can work.

Interestingly enough, I was reading though Buzan's "Speed Reading" book last night and it mentions people who "speed read" by mentally photographing entire pages at a time. He obviously doesn't mention the words "Photoreading" or "Activation" or anything like that, but he's effectively describing a very similar system.

Er a silly question but how long do you think it's taking you to regular read that book? It would be excellent for practicing on I think. If you don't have time for photoreading how do you have time to regular read a book? You managed so well on the dictionary game. Why aren't you previewing and flipping pages in photofocus? It only takes 10 minutes and the books done... you leave the activation for the next day anyway... sit down for 20 minutes activation the next day call it quits if you must. In that first 30 minutes you've probably gleaned a fair bit of juicy information from the book too.

Since you've managed the dictionary game you don't have problems with photofocus. Use the same soft expanded gaze and relaxation you used for the dictionary game... if the blip page concept is irking you. By the third listening of the relaxation exercise given for the dictionary game you'll be able to relax by yourself... won't even neet that tape.

Where are you really stuck, bujin?

Sorry if I seem to be challenging you but it's a shame to have the course for a year, believe in it and not enjoy the benefits.

Alex

You make some good points, Alex. The main problem I have is motivation. When I first pick up a book that I'm excited about, I try to read at every opportunity because I'm motivated to learn. However, after a while, my motivation drops. Sure, I could photoread the books quicker than regular reading them, but since I haven't learned the system yet, it would take the extra time to learn it first. Time which I just don't have at the moment. My A+ Computer Technician course finishes this week. Maybe I'll have a tiny bit more time to learn it. And I DO intend to learn it. But there are many things that I want to learn.

BTW - the blip page has never been a problem for me. I've been able to do that sort of thing since I was about 8 years old.

(EDIT: and on re-reading that, I realise that I used the word "learn" FAR too many times. )

[This message has been edited by bujin (edited July 09, 2002).]

bujin,

From what you write I am impressed to see just how close you are to breakthrough. You know so much about the system and just haven't put it all together yet.

I remember when I read the forum discussions before I got received the course I had the impression that its going to take ages to learn. I was surprised when I got the course just how fast I learnt it, The rest was just practice. And all I had to do was listen to the tapes once and do the exercises as they came up.

The way I got myself motivated was by recognising that LSC was working with accelerative learning techniques and therefore each side of the tape would represent a start and stop period of no more than 45 to 50 minutes in a sitting. I reasoned that they would have prepared the course so that it uses the optimum focus for learning period. It seems I was right. It was easy to listen to only one side of the tape when I had time and to carry on with the next one when I was ready.

My five year old nephew was in his first running race he was leading the way when he saw the finishline with the paper tape that he was supposed to run through. When he saw the tape it became a physical barrier to him and he slowed down and came second. He didn't know he could break the tape.

I'll let you think about what I mean by including that story about my nephew.

Alex

Don't listen to all of them. It IS a scam! I can't take this trash! Blurring your eyes. Pish! What kind of crapola is this?!

I'm just jokin' dude. The system works. I'm from TX, everyone. Trust me, just calm down, relax, and take Dana's advice that he has to give. You can and will become successful with the system if you wish to be. You'll enjoy it, believe me.

On the other hand, it is true what everyone says. A scam with a money back garentee simply doesn't exist.

I am convinced that PR does work if you give it the time. As I said before, I had some success with the dictionary game, and last night, I was doing some last minute revision for the A+ exam I was supposed to be doing (but didn't end up doing!). I decided to pseudo-Photoread - flicking through the book at quite a high speed, but not bothering with the previewing step or with the relaxation techniques. I decided, for a laugh, to give myself a little test. I covered up the bottom half of the book so I couldn't see the page numbers, then I turned to a random page and picked out a heading. I then tried to guess the page number. I did this 5 times. Results? I got two spot on, one within 5 pages and the others nowhere near. So approximately 50% success rate. Not bad!!

A lot of people don't believe in PR because it sounds ridiculous compared to what they're used to. I believed it was possible before, going by the evidence, especially that given from well known and respected people, such as Paul McKenna. Having read Tony Buzan's Speed Reading and Use Your Head books, it becomes even more plausible. Buzan is obviously a well respected person in his field of research. He doesn't specifically mention PR, but he does say that the mind can take information in in 1/500th (or is that 5/100ths?) of a second (quoting tests done where people were shown a word for such a short space of time and asking them to repeat the word). He also mentions expanding the field of view to take in more information at a time (but while he mentions whole pages, he usually refers to several lines at a time).

Anyway. I think that my biggest problem, aside from motivation, is that while I may be able to find 1 hour here and 1 hour there to attempt to learn the system, there are never a set of consecutive days where I can get into the habit of learning it - and I think I'd benefit from learning a bit every day rather than some today, some next Tuesday and some the following Monday, and so on... However, I have a week off work in just over 1 week.

I WILL take it up again. £200 is a lot of money for a bright green box that does nothing by the side of my bed...

10 bux says your a noobie who tried to learn it too quickly and cause he was disapointed he is now p**sed off and is taking it out on the company.

my 2c.

PS. Philips your a noobie. A newbie.

Hi everyone! I have studied the book and I am now waiting for the course coming by DHL. I have "a huge pile of reading material" to go through, and I already made some progress with PR. I just keep on using it. About Philips: maybe he is just upset over how people could be successful, so he just tries to shoot down the opportunity and scare away people? There is only one sure way to know the truth and that is to observe it by yourself. Be sure you do it the right way and give it a fare chance. There is no "free lunch", it takes effort to make it. But not as much as with the methods learn "the normal way".

I will now summarize what I said earlier into six simple words. Because. . .everyone's advice is great, but. . .it's simple.

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I don't think it's a scam but I also can't get it to work. Maybe it only works for NPL visual learners.

From what you've described in all of your posts, Mark, it's already beginning to work for you.

You're like the guy who can find his glasses, because he doesn't realize he tipped them up on top of his head.