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I was using an applied kinesiology technique to try to determine which audio programs I have that are worth listening to. I tested a few programs and here are my experimental results:

Centerpointe Holosync - negative

Awakened Minds Insight - negative

LSC Paraliminals = positive

Wendi Friesen's programs - positive

BioRecharge (www.grasshopper.com) - positive

HigherBalance.com - positive

DeepTranceNow.com - positive

Avatar (www.avatarepc.com) - negative

MMST (http://www.music-massage.com/) - negative

Open Focus (http://www.openfocus.com/) - positive

Whoa! I was surprised by some of these so I retested again several times but my results were always consistent. I guess this will cut down on my decisions on what to hear and save me some precious listening time. I'm sure the many loyal fans of some of these programs would be in denial.

The next step is to calibrate each program on some numerical value based on Hawkin's Level of Consciousness scale. You can use muscle testing to determine a number between 1 and 1000. Don't waste your time on anything below 200. The higher the better. You can use this method for any program that you haven't bought or used. It will save you money and time when buying stuff. This method can be used to determine the LoC of any teacher, book, teachings, systems, food, supplements, etc. For one of many LoC tables see http://www.spiritualpsychotherapy.net/id48.html . Your question is best phrased as a declarative statement with a yes/no, true/false, good/bad, healthy/non-healthy outcome. However you can't use it for future events.

Normally, two people are required but you can do the tests yourself. Here's one way.
http://www.perelandraltd.com/AB1473/webpage.cfm?WebPage_ID=70&DID8

And if you haven't read David Hawkins book Power vs. Force, read it now! It is guaranteed to raise your LoC score by 35 points on a logarithmic scale (this is not a linear scale so this is larger than 35 points on a linear scale).

shr33m

[This message has been edited by shr33m (edited June 29, 2003).]

A couple more ...

Sound Wave Energy (http://www.harmonyera.com/) - negative

Sedona Method - positive

I actually calibrated the Sedona Method at 849 on David Hawkins' LoC scale.

It was also interesting to calibrate the various styles and teachers of qigong, but I think you should do your own testing.

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Originally posted by shr33m:

I'm sure the many loyal fans of some of these programs would be in denial.

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No, not really, since you explain nothing about 1. what this technique is, 2. what it is supposed to measure, or 3. what proof you have that it actually does so in an adequate way.

For me, personal growth is fundamentally, an intuitive, subjective process, which can be guided by objective measurements, such as the one you describe, but never dictated by them.

[This message has been edited by garics (edited June 30, 2003).]

Garics,

Thats where you go and buy the Power vs Force book!

Ohhh okay.....

Garics,

I have not fully PR / Activated the PvsF book ... but what I have gleamed from it through casual flipping is that there exist this univeral database of some sorts that has a measurement from 1 to lets say 1000.

Muscle testing is used to find out how something test out, the higher the number the better ...

Again, Shr33m can problably give the exact details as I have just an overview of the books contents.

However, in closing, the contents from a overview perspective look interesting.

The book mentions that humans are lucky to increase their LOC by 5 in a lifetime, after reading this book your LOC increase by at least 35 ...

LLL

Michael

<<increase their LOC by 5 in a lifetime>>

Michael--
what is "LOC"?

Thanks for your posts. I've found Dr. Hawkins's books to be the most enlightening I've read. I just came back from Sedona where I heard him speak this weekend. He actually provided calibrations on a number of various programs, and processes.

LOC is Levels of Consciousness.

For more info on kinesiology see also

http://www.kinesiology.net/

If you haven't read Power vs Force see:
www.veritaspub.com

Robert

[This message has been edited by rhammond2k (edited July 07, 2003).]

Thanks.

"I'm sure the many loyal fans of some of these programs would be in denial."

Have to say I'm with Garics on this one. I find it odd that both programs you mention that feature the binaural technology (Centerpointe's Holosync and Awakened Minds' Insight) turned out to be negative. Without having investigated kinesiology further to this point, apparently it involves more immediate effects rather than measuring long term effects. The whole idea behind both Holosync and Insight is to gain long-term benefits with repeated usage, right?

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