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#13500 07/17/03 02:57 AM
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I think one reason society as a whole is reluctant to accept that there is 'no free will' is that to accept it we have to rethink our criminal systems. If we acknowledge that someone didn't act on free will how can we punish those we perceive as having done wrong to society... eg murderers, rapist, thieves etc.

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Agreed!

The illusory game is necessary for those who still need to learn the lessons that karma teaches. And that's most of us!

Just think, if everyone decided to be liberated all at once, our constructed reality would fall apart at the seams.

But at least we are given the opportunity to practice the true spiritual love and compassion taught by all the great avatars, which is an acceptance of all that is. We can see each person with new eyes and see the God within each person. How could you hate your fellow human knowing this? It is these few who realize this that raise the collective consciousness of the human race.

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#13502 07/17/03 04:00 AM
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B. F. Skinner wrote a wonderful treatese on free will and the failure of the criminal justice system in his book "Beyond Freedom and Dignity."






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quote:
Originally posted by shr33m:
But at least we are given the opportunity to practice the true spiritual love and compassion taught by all the great avatars, which is an acceptance of all that is. We can see each person with new eyes and see the God within each person. How could you hate your fellow human knowing this? It is these few who realize this that raise the collective consciousness of the human race.

It could be argued that to make a conscious decision to do so... we are demonstrating an act of free will.

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And this could be an argument against free will, as well.

I suggest using the technique of applied kinesiology (muscle testing) to ascertain the truth or falsity of any statement you encounter anywhere from anyone, including this forum. (Like Neo's Oracle, you will receive the answer most appropriate for you.) You don't have to accept anything on blind faith.

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babayada: YOu've barely scratched the surface of Numerology as a whole system instead of just one sect vs. another sect.

However, each sect is correct in its own way of analyzing words but only provides an appromixation to the total insight.

For example, Kabalarians rigidly claim only the first name and the last name form the major core vibrations unless the person purposely also use the middle name (ie: written or verbal). I prove to be the exception because my middle name does vibrate (due to master number) without any necessary use. I realized this after spending countless hours analyzing, intuiting (sic), and studying on my own outside the doctrine of KBP.

For anyone who understand Numer, the middle name provides the 2nd major core. I theorize that both cores vibrate, eventually, simultaneously to add more complexity of human individuation.

Next, nOt only do you have to learn the different sects but also apply it. I've explored in many ways from analyzing movies, my names, other people's names, to asking clairvoyant mediums. The latter is the most astonishing because this current medium is 100% accurate in describing the vibrations of the names I asked about.

Kaiden: Yes, respect the numbers. This is the Gregorian's matrix, IMO.

shr33m: I like the Sedona method. Unfortunately, when one has some million lives (Earh isn't the only planet with life), the method cannot account for the previous stuff which surface in the present.

SRT by Robert E. Detzler is the one I recommend from experience. His applied theory on past life karmic issues is to burn it to the roots so it never regenerates again. But he says he's not the total "magic wand."






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One of the reasons I'm very glad not to have a middle name.






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Is this the same as the Kabalah (gnostic religion that came out of Judaism.)






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Neo ... the Matrix right?

Never watched it.

My choice not to let fantasies influence me at some other level I guess.

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