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#28412 05/23/02 12:26 AM
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I was interested to see posts that mention memory techniques. The best books I have read on this subject are,
- How to Develop a Perfect Memory,
- The Amazing Memory Box,
- Learn to Remember, all by Dominic O'Brien

- Maximise Your Memory, by Jonathan Hancock

Both these chaps are world memory champions, current and ex. Their techniques are very powerful for memorising information of all types. For a review and personal comments go to amazon.co.uk if you are interested.


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#28413 05/23/02 01:41 AM
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In a way, you could say the PR Whole Mind System is a memory technique within itself. After enough practice, it's probably more powerful than nearly anything.

What kinds of things do those books talk about?






#28414 05/23/02 11:53 AM
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Don't suppose anyone's read Hannibal? The sections where he enters his 'memory palace' are so cool.
Just one thing. In order to cope with the vast amount of reading for uni I've tried PRing, yet i don't feel that my retention is as good as it was when i used visualisation memory techniques. Will it eventually equal that with practice or should i be thinking about maybe combining the two techniques?

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By all means combine the methods. Why throw away something that works when you can add something to it that makes it work even better?

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#28416 05/23/02 11:19 PM
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There are a few methods with each of these books, the most powerful is the journey method. The memory box comes with a journey map book to help you start.
There is also a good technique for never forgetting trivial pursuit quiz game answers, ever.

Dominic O'Brien is 7 times world memory champion and Jonathan Hancock is the only person to have beaten him.

check out other peoples view on both books,

dominic http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1900131935/qid=1022195745/sr=2-1/ref=sr_2_3_1/202-7657589-4117415
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0747245177/qid=1022195745/sr=1-6/ref=sr_1_3_6/202-7657589-4117415

Jonathan Hancock http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/0340742410/qid=1022195679/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_18_1/202-7657589-4117415

Any of the books mentioned are a great addition the following link includes others. http://www.happychild.org.uk/acc/tpr/index.htm


Hope this helps.

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One really great book on Memory is called "the memory book" by Harry Lorayne an Jerry Lucas. it focuses on using tricks and systems for remembering intangible things. It requires some work in the beginning to get the systems down but the benefits are worth it. Special chapters focus on remembering numbers, lists, names and faces, etc. The systems really do work well.






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hi everyone,
i worked once on harry lorraine pc software and learnt peg system that way, then develloped the 'super matrix' thing
I was wondering if in any of the book you mentioned there was other techniques (not just peg system/mnemonics)
As i cannot browse the book before buy, i'd glad to hear from you... tia






#28419 05/25/02 11:28 AM
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The main system used within the Dominic O’Brien and Jonathan Hancock books, is the journey method. (There are others included)

Using this method you start by placing objects around a familiar location like your house. These objects can be a shopping list to start with.

To recall the list you just retrace you steps through the journey of you house again. If an object is forgotten then you can just move past that area recalling the other objects first then return to it later.

This I feel is better than the linking method, which relies on you remembering the first item to move onto the next.

This method can be applied to anything. I left school at 16 with no qualifications I returned at 22 and over the past 5 years I have used the journey method to help me pass my university exams. I now have a Computing Science degree and a Masters in Multi Media.

I would recommend these books to anyone.

I also have Harry Loraynes Super Memory – Super Student book with is very good but Dominic O’Brien and Jonathan Hancock have proven their techniques to work at the highest level by winning the world memory championships title.


Links
http://www.msoworld.com/brain/mental/mso4memory.html

10th World Memory Championships – 2000 results http://www.msoworld.com/brain/mental/_mso4memorypopup.html








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first of all congratulations for your exams and diplomas ...frankly lot of respect to you....

I have heard about the journey (think it was created by socrate's sons/philosopher...long ago) but i haven't tried it out as i thought it was "too slow" (visualisation are complex)

What i meant by the peg system (maybe that's not the right word ?) was the number/rime system (ie 1=> tie, 2=> noah...23=>name etc..

i tried it for my exams this year (waiting for results gulp...) but i also played a "game" with a friend of mine who had to do congnitive test about pair memorisation... memorized 100 pairs easily (average was 6 gulp...) I train quite regulary, it's getting easier each day and i just found myself having better general recall (even when i hadn't made any mnemonics) and i was wondering if you felt the same...






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“first of all congratulations for your exams and diplomas” Thanks.

The journey method may seem long-winded and slow but its not.

If you were to use this method to memorise the word pairs, your recall would be 100% perfect every time.

The only problem I had with the journey method was actually finding suitable journeys. With the Dominic O’Brien memory box he includes a journey map-book that is complete with 4 journeys and 25 storage locations in each. (Total = 100 locations)

When I used the peg system I usually forgot the first item which would mess everything else up, using this system, if I mentally walk through a location I can remember everything stored there.

When I study for an exam:

I memorise, then I review my journey.

I write everything down I know about the exam topic in blue pen.

Then I mark it with a red one filling in everything I missed.

In doing this I can see where my weakness in my journey is. I then concentrate on this are and repeat the process and move on to the next question/topic.










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