Hooray for retorts!
"If the truth really be known almost anything and everything (aside from personal anecdotes) that's posted on here is either directly from the book, the tapes or the seminar."
That's true. Alex's subjective advice to mathematician about getting tapes instead of buying the hypnosis book, his opinion against using shortcuts, and the martial arts belt analogy are all on Tape 7A of the photoreading learning series. Scheele says, "By the way, if you use the handle Mathematician on the message board, and you ever come across a book entitled 'The Secrets of Hypnosis', be sure to get a paraliminal instead."
You're right, I totally forgot that. It's right after the part where he says, "LongTimeReader hasn't read the board very well, and doesn't realize most of the posts are from personal experience, and deal with advice, not paraphrasing my system."
"We add value through our experiences, NOT by repeating what's stated in the book."
Right again. Alex added value through his experience. You're picking up!
"We're not getting a watered down version of AlexK's. In fact, simply look at most of his posts and you'll realise that although they're helpful, they're also redundant."
What does redundancy and watering down of a message have to do with each other? One is from AlexK's personal experience, the other is paraphrased from AlexK's personal experience. One person understands what he's saying, the other is filtering what they've heard. One is unique, the other is watered down. What are you talking about?
"If AlexK had these plans then he should let people know it and ask them to behave accordingly."
This is true. From now on, whenever anybody from the forum asks my advice on a topic I may eventually write about, I will have them electrically sign a confidentiality agreement, discuss the terms of our conversation and their litigious aspects, as well as have them initial, in several places, a contract which makes clear in legalise what both parties would consider copyright infringement. That, or I'll say you're an idiot, and continue helping people, trusting they won't be jerks about it.
"Your credibility as pertaining to your ability to PR probably hasn't been damaged."
That's right. This is the part of the post where you admit you're obviously wrong since so many of us are siding with Alex on this on.
"More bluntly and obviously less diplomaticly - your response was childish and I was suprised that it came from you after reading it."
Actually, getting peeved that you helped someone out after that same person takes your advice and pretends its his own would get any person upset. I don't think anybody here but you thinks it was childish.
For the record, no that wasn't an original thought. I've picked that little tidbit of advice up from various resources.
That was childish. Also, it differs from Alex's advice to Mathematician which was subjective, and yours, which, as you say, is based on various resources. Alex's was an original opinion. Yours wasn't.
"Chang Liu - I hope you're satisfied. Obviously you don't understand what you're talking about and yet you've pulled the wool over some people's eyes thanks to AlexK's help."
This is EXACTLY what I mean by watering down. The experienced people (for the record) noticed the advice wasn't really that great, and the people who aren't experienced trusted that he WAS, and received advice that would have been better given by the original person.
No matter how you slice it, Chang took Alex's advice, and posted it on the forum as his own. Despite all semantics, this is what he did: it's at the very least an underhanded thing to do, and I, for one, totally sympathize with Alex on this. I'm sure most people agree, except for you, which is probably in some way related to the concept that most of us have already concluded that you are probably Chang.
I still have my reservations, since you make more sense than he does.
Oh, and before you mount what will inevitably be a response, keep in mind I have no shame in being childish in an internet flame. It's nothing personal. Oh wait, it is.
Thumbing his nose at you,
-Ramon http://razor.ramon.com
