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Originally posted by Victor_Elen:
Hello everybody.
I¡¦d like to extend this topic posting some information concerning learning PRing.
Firstly I write what I¡¦ve been doing and you (who is reading this topic and having experience and the answer) please give me some advise or correction what I¡¦ve done wrong, will you?
I¡¦ve been using PR Whole Mind System for three weeks, almost every day for 3-5 hours.
When I came to Record 7 (PR Your Own Book) I took an advantage to read: ¡§Studying and living in the UK¡¨ (A guide for international students and visitors) by The British Council, 154 pages.
The book containing important information regarding studying and living in the UK which can help me not to make lots of mistakes.
Alex asked Mathematic what he was doing and how. Not to repeat misunderstanding I¡¦ll briefly write what I have done.
Excellent because now I can help you.
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1 day. Previewing (20minuts)
Too long, max time for a book is 8 minutes 90 seconds is recommended.
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PRing (8 minutes)
Average book of 200 to 300 pages (even 400 - 500 pages) ... too long, Turn a page every one to 2 seconds
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Mind Probing (3 minutes)
iffy.. can be done periodically during incubation 3 minutes is Okay if you have a pretty good idea of what you want from a book.
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Super Reading* (27 minutes)
*- I combine SP & Dipping with Rapid Reading so that all details very important to me and I don¡¦t wanna miss a point.
Bad move, dip is rhythmic perusal, not so much rapid reading. dipping is reading a phase or two or perhaps a sentence or two at the most a paragraph if it is answering your question.
A distinction - Rapid reading is, going through the book from beginning to end. If you combine rapid reading with superreading and dipping then you are not superreading and dipping period. You are merely rapid reading and have by passed the faster manual activation techniques. If you want to get PhotoReading. to work, get over the need to know everything in one go. It doesn't happen with traditional reading and it won't happen with PhotoReading because the conscious mind does not work that way. Build your knowled in layers and leave rapid reading for the very last step in the process of activating the book
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Memory Supercharger (15 minutes)
lenght of the Paraliminal...
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Sleep Cycle** (30 minutes)
**After MS I can¡¦t help falling asleep, but it fantastically relaxes me 
not surprising however if you get up you'll notice that you are even more refreshed.
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Mind Probing (2 minutes)
Super Reading & Dipping whole book (with
Rapid Reading as I mentioned earlier)
(23 minute)
Comment already made applies
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2 day. PRing (3 minutes)
That's more like it.
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Super Reading (7) minutes
Why so short?
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3 day. PRing (4 minutes)
Same book?
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Super Reading (5 minutes)
What's your purpose? did you get what you wanted in that 5 minutes? why did you start with 27 minutes and now do an activation pass in 5? You realise of course that it takes 10 minutes for the mind to get into the flow state whenever it does a task? It can get faster once you've gained experience but there is no way no how you're ready to say you're in the flow state of activation so why did you only give it 5 minutes?
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4 day PRing (3 minutes)
Super Reading (6 minutes)
My math must be bad but how does your effort on these 4 days = 3 to 5 hours per day. You spent less than 10 mintues with the book day 4 and 5?
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Now I¡¦ve got a question:
How does it help me to do it if I need to be aware not just of the context of the book, but the (flash) I mean all details?
to get the same level of comprehension out of a book, as a beginner you can do it in 1/3 the time it takes you to traditionally read the book so if the book in your example takes 12 hours it's going to take you 4 hours of activation to get the same or better level of comprehension (it's often better because the connections between the front of the book and the back are made sooner)
So far you haven't even spent an hour activating.
Do the 5 day test, you'll note its 30 minutes per session with the exception of day one which might take 10 minutes.
As pointed out in the 5 day test on day 5 you will have spend a little over 2 hours with the book, compare that with your traditional reading.
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Moreover if I read a dictionary I don¡¦t wanna find out the structure, but the details. Otherwise what is the point of being aware of the structure but not being capable of knowing correct spelling or meaning the words?
Who reads a dictionary normally anyway? we look up words when we want to chect the spelling PR will point you to the word faster but very few people actually bother to read it.
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Look, I wanna you get me; I don¡¦t need the structure so much, for me the most important point is THE DETAILS!!!! When I am reading the learning book ¡§Microsoft Office XP¡¨ I have to know exactly where to click but not the structure of the bookƒ¼. The same level of comprehension I can archive by elementary reading.
As already explained
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And now tell me what the point of all this learning is.
None the way you're trying to learn it
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Where is preconscious mind? When will all the Data Base come to conscious mind and I am be capable of remembering all phone numbers addresses and other information. I took as simply book as possible. But imagine taking a book which teaches you programming and administration SQL Server 2k. Aha?
You don't learn them over night do you... some of those text books take 25 to 75 hours to learnwith traditional reading which means 5 to 25 hours of activation is going to be required and you won't get that with a lazy 5 minute superread and poor mind probing questions.
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Excuse me for this aggressive tone, but I am afraid I¡¦ve tried all my best, all methods concerning Reading. It seems if I fail I simply give up my researchƒ¼.
I don¡¦t understand also why I have to PR every time, is it not enough for preconscious mind to read just ones?
Thanks. Victor.
You don't have to PR every time.
Now I have some questions for you
What was your score on page 47 and 49 of the manual.
What happened with the prepare stage?
What is your purpose for reading the book?
You failed to mention entering the ALS... so how long did that take you?
How many trigger words did you pull from the book during your preview?
What was your score for pre-test second trial?
What was your experience with the exericise on page 20 of the manual?
How does that exercise apply to NOPS?
Alex
[This message has been edited by Alex K. Viefhaus (edited August 07, 2004).]
