Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ Spring Forest Qigong What Does Master Lin Say About "Crossing Over?"

Hi Web:

Your love for your Mom is overflowing. Don't ever let that go. As simple as this sounds there is nothing like a good daily walk or hike to help work through these important life events. As you walk breath in and visualize energy flowing into your heart and radiating out to your entire being. As you build energy in your heart you will find your higher path forward and do great and loving things.

You really do have all the time in the world so when you are ready to meditate again it will be the right time.

Starfish:

Thanks for that clipping from the Tricycle Buddhist. I tucked it away.

Love,
Agent B

To Everyone,

Man, the love that is shown in this group is quite stirring. I mean, I’m sitting here at work and I just literally had to pull myself away from my desk and race to the bathroom to splash cold water on my face because I started getting choked up and felt the swells coming. Thanks, I am deeply and greatly touched.

Shawn, there is a thought that has been plaguing me for the past couple of months and as irrational as it may seem, it’s something that I keep mulling over and over again. You see, in some way I feel partially responsible and guilty for my mother’s rapid health deterioration.

In the first couple of weeks of early February 2004, I added my mother’s name to the weekly group healing session in order to ensure her recovery from 3rd stage multiple myeloma. In January 2004, after six months of chemotherapy, the chemotherapist reported that my mother was a miracle (the therapist’s exact words), as my mother had responded extremely well to the treatment and was making great progress. In addition, all the doctors and specialists had made similar reports and shared that were very optimistic and enthusiastic about my mother’s chances for recovery. My brothers, sisters and I were overjoyed to hear this great news because we could even see for ourselves how much better she had gotten and improved. She was alert, very active, had a healthy appetite and was improving with each passing day. God, I was so happy.

When I visited my mother at home, Saturday, February 14, 2004, 12:00p.m, for Valentine’s, it was then I discovered that my mother’s health seemed like it was starting on a decline. In fact, while I was by her bedside, my mother said something to me that packed a wallop. It literally felt like I’d been hit in the chest with a sledgehammer. You see, weeks before, I had enthusiastically shared with my Mom that I added her name to a group that performed healing sessions, etc., and that this was another step to help her get better and be well again. However, it seemed like I was getting the opposite results. She went ahead and told me that since I started performing healing sessions on her via the group session and on my own at home, she felt that she worsening. Well, she did deteriorate rapidly after that and by May 2nd…

Anyway, in a real way, I feel partially responsible for this sad turn of events. Shawn, could this be possible??? That is, could energy work produce an opposite effect and yield a negative outcome? Again, intellectually I realize that this may be an irrational belief. However, I feel compelled to get it out of my system and pose the question to you just to know for sure, for closure hopefully.

Be well,

Web

WebCrawler2010, I have followed this thread but haven't found the right words to share. I have shared my love for your condition but remained silent.

You can rest assured that you've done no harm coming from a place of love. Your intend and desires are a part of your message, the visualization and other techniques are just that, techniques to help transmit and shape the message. But the message remains one of love and caring.

Master Lin talks of people he can not help. It is not because he lacks for love or technique, but because he is not the only force at work. He has the knowledge and wisdom to recognize these occaisions and does what he can by offering prayers.

You are perfection.
Iam2

Dear Web,

One of the hardest lessons for me to learn
is to pray for the highest good of all
concerned; I want it my way because it
is hard to watch someone else suffer.

When you put it out to pray for a person,
there are many who will pray for the
highest good of the person concerned;
I think that is the prayer that is answered.

Although we want to keep our loved ones
well and with us, it may be that it would
lead to more suffering down the line; I have
seen that happen where someone's will was so
strong it kept his mother alive even
though she was suffering and only waiting
for him to reconcile to let her go.

In some of Sylvia Browne's books, she
describes the process of planning for life
before we come into it. One of the things
she says is that we plan 5 exit points
where we can choose to leave at any one
of them. If this is true, and I think it
is, then when we pray for a person we can
help them if they choose to continue in
life, but if they choose not to, knowingly
or unknowingly, there is nothing anybody
can do about it. We are all really in
charge of our lives whether we realize it
or not. The veil of forgetfulness causes us
to forget that we planned it all to learn
some lessons here; lessons we chose to
learn.

What I am trying to say is, your mother
is really in control of her life; don't
go by the physical appearances.

Chunyi Lin is helping us be open
to other levels of
our being; we are multi-dimensional. There is
a lot going on on other levels that we can't
possibly know about. You have nothing to feel
guilty about; you did your part in the best
possible way.

I hope this helps and doesn't confuse the
issue.

Gianni

[This message has been edited by Gianni (edited June 09, 2004).]

Aloha Webcrawler2010,

Spend some time with these last two posts.

You're response to the situation is pretty common. The healing that goes on with Spring Forest Qigong is at a pHysical, Emaitional, Mental, and SPiritual level. As Iam2 scratched on -Chunyi mentions that sometimes the healing happening is only partially at a physical level to create time for the Spiritual healing to take place in preparing to move on. Sometimes a tough lession to learn is Intention, Attention, No Attachment.

You'll see through Dr. Masaru Emoto's work in Messages from water books 1-3, is that intention makes a difference in the energy of water, plants, food, people, etc. http://hado.net/

Much Love & prayers,

Shawn

Hello WebCrawler:
As you are realizing, grief is a very powerful emotion. Please try not to judge yourself too harshly. You wanted nothing more than to help your mother recover and you asked for prayers through the SFQ healing group. I too believe prayers are answered for the higher good of the person concerned and that when we pray we turn the outcome over to a force much greater than ourselves. I didn't understand or accept this when my mother died at the age of 46 when I was 16 (almost 41 years ago). But I do now. Talk to your mother from your heart and ask her for her help. She will be there.

Dear Web.......The Dianetics session leads a person to return into the past and relive
the saddness and suffering. The person is directed to go through the experience again and again and again....6,8,10 times until the pain is released---(usually by tears, sometimes yawning)....
And no, the cherished memories of
love and happiness you had with your loved one are not erased. They are still there.

You see, the mind is composed of mental image pictures----abstract, spiritual----pictures which we, all of us, make as we
walk through life. These pictures are indestructable, never to be erased. i.e.
you'll have your pictures for the rest of eternity. what happens in the session is simply the release of the pain and sorrow,
after which time you are able to think and talk about your loved ones without feeling the deep saddness and crippling effects of the loss.

I hope this satisfies.

You may write me for further
info at Dianetics85@yahoo.com

God bless.

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Originally posted by WebCrawler2010:
Hello Agent B/Dianetics85,

Thx for reaching out and especially for your warm and supportive words.

Agent B, I am deeply appreciative about what you wrote in your reply regarding posting a question to my Mom during the sun meditation and asking her how to move forward (what a comforting and fascinating idea). However, I’ve momentarily stopped meditating because I’ve been too emotional, feelings of grief, anger and panic. I dunno, it’s just that whenever I’m by myself and I close my eyes (mostly nights around bedtime), I immediately see an image of my Mom, and then the realization that she’s gone crashes in and I get that jolt of pain in my heart area. In addition, I recall from listening to one of Master Lin’s tape whereby he states that meditating while in a highly emotional state is not good. So, it’s definitely something I will do once I begin to feel a bit of ease with being alone with my thoughts.

Your last paragraph was beautiful and encouraging. It reminded me so much about my Mother and that is, that no matter how bad she was feeling, whether she was in a lot pain, etc., you wouldn’t even know it because she was always warm, kind, considerate and especially helpful to others. I know deep within my heart that I will honor her memory by continuing this legacy and doing like she did. Thanks for helping me to remember that I want to be like my Mom.

Dianetics85, the therapy/releasing sessions that you wrote about is highly intriguing and merits further inquiry not only for myself, but especially for my brothers and sisters. How essentially does this process work and what does it entail? I must confess that I do feel a bit of resistance thinking about the process and the thought of moving on. I guess I’m a bit troubled with the notion that if I release my sorrow then it would mean that I’ll forget her and that I love her less. Intellectually I realize these thoughts are ludicrous, ridiculous even, but it’s the first thing that comes to my mind. Anyway…

God bless and kindest regards,

Web

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Dear Webcrawler,

Two of my own experiences came to mind when I read your words.

1) My mother died a year ago this past Easter. My doctor,who is also a spiritual master, told me to do this and it has been wonderfully helpful: take a photo of your mother (just of her) and put it where you will see it often. Every time you see it say, "I love you,(her full name,) and I release you." I am amazed at the healing this brought. A short time after doing this, Mama appeared to me, laughing. Her message: "Didn't we have a good time!"

2) Years ago I had a serious illness and I'd pull in energy from the universe to heal myself, and then I'd send it on to someone else I knew for healing. Once when I was sending it on to someone new for the first time, I received a very bold, clear, audio message: "No. Don't do this. It's his time." I was quite surprised to be told this, but I accepted and let the person go with my love to accompany him.

PAL

Dear PAL,

Thank you, thank you, for your advice and for sharing your thoughts of your personal experience. It certainly does help to shift my focus and put things in perspective.

I carry a photo of my beautiful and loving mother in my wallet and each and every time I see her photo, I immediately kiss it and press it tightly against my heart. I will add that last step you recommended because my sincerest wish is that somehow, in someway, that she knows how much my brothers/sisters and I LOVE HER, ADORE HER and EXTREMELY MISS HER her and that we will always feel an immensely strong bond with her.

I feel compelled to share that I've been deeply moved by the warm and encouraging responses I've received from members of this forum. I've found all the responses to be extremely helpful and invaluable. Incidentally, I called my youngest brother yesterday and he just literally fell apart over the phone. It was quite unnerving to say the least because I’ve never witnessed him in a state like this before. It was a definite wakeup call that my family needs me and therefore, I’m going to do my best to redirect my energies so that I can focus more on helping them with the healing process.

Thank you all for helping me to prepare for this.

Warmest & heartfelt regards,

Web