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#53522 04/06/06 12:53 AM
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Hey, if there is anyone who has been doing the SFQ for awhile, what is your experience with pain after doing SFQ? I do not mean getting hurt by doing it, but rather after doing it for a few days, I am experiencing a kind of achy feeling in my stomach.

I think I have had this before: when I was deep into Tai Chi Chuan, at one point, I had this same kind of pain. It reminds me of another kind of ache I used to get when I worked out a lot with weights back in my late teens. I did a bunch of weight lifting/body shaping and I remember this kind of pain in my legs and arms. It kind of felt good in a way, because you knew you were working out.

I did not and do not expect that from Qi work, and yet, I think I get it sometimes. I have an intuitive sense that this is a good thing. It feels a bit like doing a lot of sit ups only I am mostly feeling it in the lower abdomen and not the upper.

Just wondering if anyone else has experienced this. It is not anything terrible, just an ache. I will also search the archives.

But what say you? You few, you precious few... (BTW, anyone know where that is from? It sounds familiar to me, a poem or something, but I can't quite place it).


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The sensations will shift as you continue your practice.

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Thanks, Shawn. That is what I figured and that is how I remember it back when I was very deep into Tai Chi Chuan practice with my most foundational teacher, Marvin Smalheiser, publisher of T'AI CHI MAGAZINE. I was doing at least 3 hours of T'ai Chi and related QiGong every day, attending 3-4 classes a week, teaching beginners, doing pushing hands, fast forms and weapons and sitting and standing meditation.

And I remember this same sensation and having it shift and change.

So my experience bears out what you say, but my memory was a bit fuzzy on this. Now that you say it, it all comes back with confidence and clarity.

Thanks again.

I appreciate this forum and all of the shared experience and guidance.

Blessings,
Steve


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Aloha shakurav,

Chuniy used to teach Tai Chi as well. He continues to do a very active version of it, which he uses as a little more exercise during his day.

At one time he brought over a friend of his who is a very accomplished tai chi master from China. The master was a great example of slower is better, as his movement during the Moving of Yin & Yang would make one wonder if his hands were actually moving or not.

Speaking of "push hands" , Chunyi talks about how at a certain level in that training, one no longer has a center, but each cell is its own center, and then there is nothing within them for the other to sense at all.

Much Love, Shawn


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Thanks Shawn for that. All of that is both valuable information and also inspiring. Once, I get my SFQ practice on an even keel, I want to get back into my T'ai Chi Ch'uan practice.

There is a Tung Kai Yin school here in SF, CA. That is the school I once most learned and practiced in and the one I think I most feel I want to return to. It had a nice balance between yang and yin (martial and meditative) and I really did love it as sport, play, exercise, etc.


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Aloha shakurav,

Chunyi just talked at the Guild meeting this Saturday about the connection between Tai Chi and Qigong.

Pretty timely since World Tai Chi/Qigong day is coming up on the 29th.

Notes for the meetings are sent out to members if you're interested.

Much Love, Shawn


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I would be very interested! What do you need from me to send it out to me?

Thanks in advance,

Blessings,

Steve


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One can sign up for the Guild here.

Much Love, Shawn



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