Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ Spring Forest Qigong Holosync Update and Kundalimi effect

Hi!

I’ve been trying out the Holosync program for about 5 weeks now. It’s not enough to give a proper validate of the course for me yet, but I would like to share my experiences since I know learningstrategies has sent a special Centerpoint offer to all the members.

When I started meditating at first I got bored very quick and decided to try out the Holosync. When I started listening I could instantly feel I was going deeper and deeper and I often felt a sleep. However I cannot say YET that all the Holosync “promises” has taken place- they haven’t. (But as I mention I’ve only used it for 5 weeks or so)

The most amusing thing I find with the Holosync is that I’m so much better to do normal meditating, which I now find much more satisfying and pleasuring than only using the holosync. When I do “normal” mediating I can feel the energy go in and through me much more, and sometime I can sense a slight congestion over my head when I’m finished.

Today when I meditated I could feel a VERY good sensation in my spine which still is there (2 hours since I meditate), and I’m wondering if I could have awaken some of the Kundalimi energy. If it is, I find it very strange since I haven’t been meditating a long time. Have anyone any thoughts on this?

It’s strange that Centerpoint doesn’t mention the Kundalimi effect when people experience anxiety, depression and physical pain, but only talks about the “Chaos theory” the brain experiences and the results of the “new- organized” mind that appear subsequent to the Chaos.

Any comments would be appreciated.
Fred

Fred,

It sounds like you may have, but I'm no expert.

FYI ... there IS a Holosync group on yahoo I believe. Do a search on the forum, the exact link was posted.

Always good to keep in touch with other like minded people.

Love and Light

Michael Saikali

There is a Centerpointe forum on ezboard.com.

I have been on Holosync for several months. Prior to that I meditated for over 20 years. Holosync did trigger the kundalini response in me.

My meditations are deeper now and I am calmer in general. It's great. Stick with it. I am.

Not really that strange when you consider it. There is danger is someone trying for chöd and hurting themselves badly in the process. Best to stay on the shallow-end, especially with Wonder Products, and let those who have the talent discover it for themselves.

It's easy to believe, assuming the graphs are real, that Holosync leads to brain-balancing and a state of mental clarity. It's difficult to believe that Holosync leads to a quasi-mystical force uncoiling in the root of your spine.

I agree Kaiden. I would rather use bio feedback. It teaches you how to go into the state and how to go into the state on your own without any mechanical help after that when you are able to.

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Thanks for all the comments. I’m not sure if everyone got my central message completely, but my emphasis should have been that I find “normal” meditation more valuable to me than listening to the Holosync audio now. What Holosync gave me was the ability to quiet myself much faster and to get deeper into state, when doing “normal” meditation, after using the audio for some weeks.

There’s no normal meditation techniques of course,- but as you all have guessed I mean meditating without the use of technology.

I do not practice Qigong but learning and performing Pranic Healing,- but I love this forum as it seems that many are very eager to talk and discuss the art of healing and meditating. However Qigong is one method of healing and Pranic Healing another,- but essentially they offer the same possibilities.

I’m just curios, but how do Qigong handle certain issues. Is it by intuition, scanning or do you have specific guidelines to each health problems, how to treat the Charkas involved or causes the problem? In PR there are procedures for most alignments, which charkas to treat, color to use, etc (based on clairvoyants observation) but also the use of scanning to determine the condition and possible “intuitive” actions that may be the better way..

Best loving regards
Fred

Aloha Fred,

I'm glad you are having success in your work.

Your original post is more appropriate for a Holosync forum, or brought up in the Beyond Human Forum, as it is more of an open-ended forum. A majority of the participants of this forum visit that one as well. Actually, I was told today that Hale Dwoskin will be in the cities next month and is planning to visit Learning Strategies.

The healing in Spring Forest Qigong begins with detecting blockages with the hand. Later trainings develop the third eye and detecting through auditory, imagery, and visual modes.

It aligns with the energetic systems of TCM, as well as healing of one's emotional and spiritually aspects.

Master Lin always comments about us Americans being a "recipe" culture and his basics in healing others are presented in this way, then expanded beyond such linear routines.

Enjoy your Pranic Healing work.

Much Love, Shawn

Aren't you getting Hale Dwoskin (of Sedona Training Associates) confused with Bill Harris (of Centerpointe)?

Isn’t mediation a very important concept in Spring Forrest Qigong?

I’m sorry for not being clear enough once again. I would only share my experiences with the Holosync,- that for healing purposes my point of view for this program does not do the “trick”, as for helping to connect with the universe and to receive divine energy just by listening to it. In Pranic Healing we learn that through meditating we gain peace, understanding, better physical/mental health but also the ability to heal better and faster, due to the advancement of the whole energy system (In general).

When performing “normal” meditation, I call upon protection, help, guidance and illumination. I activate my heart and Crown, humming a mantra and receive divine energy which I literally can feel during and after meditation. How could this possible be achieved just by listening to some audio as Gallan previously comment in an earlier post.

I don not want to criticize the Holosync at all, just to mention that I do not think at all it can replace “normal” mediation,- if your goal is to expand your awareness, advance the charkas, cleanse the aura and therefore also to be better to receive and send healing energy through you.

I guess and know most of you already know or understand this much better than me, and I just would like to inform or re-inform my fellow traveler who may want to buy the program, that I think and believe after my first hand experiences with the holosync, that it cannot replace the intending, silent, praying and the illuminating art of “normal” meditation which has been practiced for thousands of years.

However I can only talk from my experiences undoubtedly, and not from all the others who seems to love the Holosync Program.

Best loving regards
Fred

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Aloha Shr33m (Eddie),

Thank you for noticing that. It is Hale from the Sedona Method who's coming down next month for a book signing(must be the reason we got one as a gift...my brain is slowly coming back since Mondays -I guess birthdays are a little unsettling.

I'm surprised I equated Hale with Center Pointe, as we get quite a few calls saying they received a flier and want to talk with Bill. Of course we have a Bill on staff which makes such transfers fun. Sometimes people think we're both the same company, and explaining the whole "endorsing" concept is tough for some to get a grip on.

ftaas01: Thank you for trying to clarify your post, as the initial one occurred to many as sharing a Holosync experience, thus all the replies looking to assist you in finding a more appropriate space. That was very kind and thoughtful of them.

Meditation is an integral part of Spring Forest Qigong, as is breathing and body movements/ postures.

Master Lin would say to focus on what the Pranic Healing offers, and after you've spent a long time with it, then see what other systems like SFQ have to offer. Consider concentrating and growing in your foundation, rather than having it diluted with other avenues right away.

Much Love and a great weekend, Shawn