Forums IMPORTANT: PLEASE READ Beyond Human VERY URGENT all USA ALTERNATIVE THERAPY USERS

The website from which this originates, healthfreedomusa.com and the organization the runs it, Natural Solutions Foundation, is legitimate. I do not know her personally, but I have seen Dr. Laibow speak on the CODEX issue and its grim implications for health freedom in the US and the world. It is my understanding that she shut down a lucrative Westchester County NY medical practice to devote herself to the cause of educating lawmakers and the public on CODEX. She has flown all over the world to do so over the past few years. If you go to the site, you will see that the Natural Solutions Foundation is a non-profit organization so you can donate to the cause.

Please note that I am not connected to healthfreedomusa.com, Natural Solutions Foundation or Rima Laibow. I am just a concerned citizen who has been following the CODEX issue for the past couple of years and appreciate all the personal and financial sacrifices Dr. Laibow and her husband have made to (hopefully) protect our health freedoms.

A lot of CODEX sounds so ridiculous that its easy for the public to discount it wholesale. This is a global issue. I may be totally wrong on this but I think some CODEX measures have already taken effect in Germany, making vitamin supplements we take for granted in the US very very expensive and only available through a doctor's prescription.

Regardless, please do your own research on CODEX - it's not a lie and it doesn't look like it's going to be going away.

Hi Everyone.
I believe that Frodo02 and Skipper above are correct.
I have just read an excellent book, referring to CODEX, and the above bill that is trying to bet passed by April 30.
It is already law in most of Europe and Australia. The policy was developed by the European Union and adopted by the WTO. All countries under the WTO are supposed to follow their mandates, so it follows that the US will pass this bill. I don't think there is anything we can do to stop it!
The pharmaceutical companies want to make more money by eliminating the ease and low cost of the alternative therapies and want to bring them under their control to make money off of it by charging exorbitant fees and requiring prescriptions to get them. The pharmaceutical companies, FDA, and FTC also have control over the additives in food and can do amazing things here ... to make us sicker not healthier, in order to increase the selling of drugs.
I don't expect you to believe me, but there are hundreds of books on this topic. There is an excellent biography of many of these books by many doctors, scientists and Nobel Prize winners, all found in an inexpensive book called "Natural Cures THEY Don't Want You to Know About" by Kevin Trudeau or subscribe to his newsletter or go to his website: www naturalcures com

You can read about this bill there as well as it has been in the works for many years and is referred to as CODEX as it applies to vitamins, minerals, and alternative therapies.

We can't be naive to think that our govt has our best interests at heart. They don't they are part of the corporate machine and they are into Profits.

Yes Nanina,
I have come to the same conclusion about this woman who left her lucrative practice to inform the world and work for preserving our right to use alternative therapies.
If CODEX goes through, it will drive the cost of vitamins, minerals, etc. to a ridiculous cost, from 5.00 to 150.00 for a bottle of Vitamin C, for example.

Much of what the pharmaceutical companies, the FDA, and FTC have already done sounds ridiculous and against the law but that is because they are writing the laws and can exempt themselves from following some of the laws, such as eliminating freedom of speech when advertising alternative therapies in the media.

To learn more about what I'm talking about and what CODEX is about, read Natural Cures THEY Don't Want You To Know About, by Kevin Trudeau. It is inexpensive and can be bought in your local bookstore or healthfood store.

Hey Esther,

I am well versed on the horrors of CODEX. Getting the rest of us sheeple to understand what is really going on and take some action without looking like a nut or conspiracy theorist has been a frustrating challenge! Glad to see you and some others get it.

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Since we cannot fool everyone some would discover the
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We would set up websites, create books and magazines to
promote those “conspiracy theories”. Most people would become
confused and would not be able to separate facts from fictions and
therefore decide that any conspiracy report is nonsense.

It would further make people feel week and small and therefore
say nothing and just ignore those information.

So we could make our plans come true and you wouldn’t even
need the law of attraction to do it.


Cheers,

Here is an update from New Zealand where the same
kind legislation is proposed.

http://www.tv3.co.nz/News/NationalNews/tabid/184/Default.aspx?ArticleID=25966

Has anyone actually looked at the guide. It lists the proposed contacts for who to go to if you're concerned about being sold snake oil alternative medicines. It's in fact trying to recognise that there are alternative medicines

{quote]This draft guidance, when finalized, will represent the Food and Drug Administration's (FDA's) current thinking on this topic. It does not create or confer any rights for or on any person and does not operate to bind FDA or the public. You can use an alternative approach if it satisfies the requirements of the applicable statutes and regulations. If you want to discuss an alternative approach, contact the FDA staff responsible for implementing this guidance. If you cannot identify the appropriate FDA staff, call the appropriate number listed on the title page of this guidance.

Good or bad it's trying to protect the public and give them somewhere to go and look after the existing statutes.

It's also helpful to teach the public that a little may be good ... more is not necessarily better so regulating it and just because it's "natural" doesn't make it good for you nor is it necessarily desirable that you import the natural product (rhino horn powder comes to mind). So it's unfortunate that stuff like that has to be written down somewhere so the practitioners and the general public has somewhere to go.

Did anyone see the resent research that alcohol damages the female brain faster than the male? That harmless unregulated substance has been consumed by humanity for as long as recorded history can tell. It has long been noticed that more is not necessarily good for you. But to us it's a natural product and used as alternative therapy by some individuals.

There are many ways of looking at this issue. Having read the pdf it seems to me it's only trying to put order to the statutes already in place otherwise this guide could not have been produced so quickly.

Alex

Alex,

The "alternative remedies" bill is designed to stop people from buying
their vitamins and minerals from a health shop. Instead they have to
see a doctor (MD), pay him some extra fees and get prescription to
buy this stuff at a pharmacy.

All off the arguments in favour of this are bogus including yours. For instance
some argue that people overdose themselves with that minerals or vitamins.
Or some take it with alophathic remedies (from a doctor) which then produces
a poison cocktail.

This of course happens but they are exceptions. Remember that kitchen knives can also be dangerous. Some injure themselves and other with it but nobody so far has come to the idea to ban them.

For you in Australia it now already a reality that you do not have free access to natural remedies.

What a petty.

Cheers,

Thanks for the information Alex,