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Hey Alex,

Thanks for the info. The only problem is that both methods have worked for me brilliantly.

It's impossible to understand the chaos my mind is going through, even for me. Every ten minutes, I think "Ok, so I'll stick with photoreading and drop speed reading." Then in the next ten minutes I think of all the reasons why I should use speed reading instead and then I start thinking, "Ok, now I'll use speed reading, and drop photoreading."
This is going through my mind ALL the time now. I think I shouldn't have even taken the Maximum Speed Reading course.

Since you're a photoreading instructor, could you help me get back with photoreading? I don't know how to do it, but I want to stick with either one, it really doesn't matter which to me. I just NEED to get out of this frame of mind which changes constantly every 10 minutes.

I know that phrase, "Whether you think you can, or you think you can't, you're right," but the thing is I CAN do both of them, so I'm in a state where I don't know WHAT to think. Both systems worked well enough for me, and the pro/con list between both of them is pretty balanced.

If you could help me out, I'd be forever grateful.

Thank you!

-JackTuff13

I have been reading this with interest. I though Howard Berg's method was Evelyn Woods with new yorker accent. It was essentailly the same thing. I too have had my frustration with Photoreading. I found Reading Genius better, though definitely not perfect. I am seeking to know what else is out there. Will PhotoReading come out with a newer version with software anytime soon?

Hey George,

Howard Berg's method is similar, but not identical, to Evelyn Wood's method. I think it's better actually. He teaches you WHAT to look for in text, while Evelyn Wood teaches you to read every word during their "read" step.

I thought Reading Genius was good, until a week or two later when I went back to the books and realized I knew nothing of them. I kept doing it, thinking I'd see improvement but soon realized it was a joke.

Photoreading has worked extremely well with me, but as I stated in my prior post, so has Maximum Speed Reading. I can't decide which to use, and truly, I only want to go forward with one. I know photoreading is great, so I was hoping Alex could either motivate me to use photoreading or to help me decide which to use.

Then again, I only had the original Reading Genius, with no software. Just audio cassettes, and two video tapes. Maybe 2.0 is better, but I'm not ready to spend $300 to find out when I already am able to read fast. Or even photoread, fast.

He does have a Brooklyn style accent, but after a while you get used to it. At least, I did.

The biggest frustration I've had with Photoreading was it's "practicality" with reading in libraries, bookshops, and also when incubating. I want information available to me right away, which is what I was able to get with Howard Berg's method. But the information I got after activating was great too, so I'm really looking forward to any help I can get, especially from Alex.

Take care,

-JackTuff13

" In fact last week I encountered a research paper that points to information being put into middle term memory. This appears to be where all conscious reading winds up. "

Hi, ALex , I don't get the middle term memory and the conscious reading winds up bit. Could u explain to me middle term memory plx.

Hi, Jacktuff13. Thats no need to separate the two method, in stead, combine the 2 method together. If I 've u, I will combine the 2 method together, I will probably PR all the book I want in the Library, then without waiting to save time, use speed reading on the books that you are interested in, so u throw everything into inner mind first and consicous speed read the books, when you are at home, and u have plenty of time, use just PURE PR method on books, then it will be much more relax and not in hurry to know the book like u said in the library. Everything you learn is useful to u in someways.

Hope this will help u to break you from the stuck state

Hey Vincent,

I would but since the methods are sort of hard to break up, I'd be doing both of the WHOLE systems, not just parts, which would make my time reading an average 250 page book at least 2 times longer than just using one method.

And I want to be able to call myself either a "photoreader" or a "speed reader", nothing important and not really a big deal to me, but it's just something I would prefer.

-JackTuff13

Turn the books upside down and PhotoRead backwards/from back cover forward. That will take care of dipping down to speed reading!

Yukala,
The problem is not that I "dip down to speed read" while photoreading.

The problem is that I have had great success with both Photoreading and speed reading and now I don't know which one to use.

-JackTuff13

oh sorry, I figured you had decided that?

Seems like a personal decision to me?

I can give you my feelings so far as it concerns my understanding here now for me.

Nice disclosure huh? <smiles>

I think speed reading is abusive to the fore-conscious mind and I would abandon it forthwith. A little is one thing, but as a course of habit, no. I was exposed to it as an highschool course, and again from time to time with always the same feelings, too hard on the 'ram'.

The fore-conscious (I say it that way cause I believe all-Mind is conscious) need be at peace a lot to function at it's best, not crammed full of things all the time.

So, therefor I would PhotoRead the Library as it were daily and sit tight with it for several months and meanwhile focus consciously on ones meditation skills.

Then as 'inspired' one precious day go do your life. Get lost in doing and come for air in a few years.

That is my best over-all advice on the matter.

Middle memory is something they recently found in memory research. It's a medium term memory that holds the information for about 24 hours and then dumps it. Not storing it in the long term memory yet it's available longer than short term memory. It's like remembering someone's phone number of the day and then because you didn't do anything to store it in the long term memory it dumps it. A use it again or lose it. It feels to me that some books we read with traditional reading wind up in that part of the memory. If we don't do something with it like talk about it straight away it seems to disappear. That appears to happen even more with speed reading. Because we have it even less in our short term conscious memory. I'm looking forward to hearing more of this research it might go to explain why kids have so much difficulty learning at school not just in relation to reading.

Jack, Speed reading skills have their place move faster and you're superreading. If combining the skills is slowing you down then the problem isn't a choice of either PhotoReading or speed reading. The problem is being a passive reader only faster. Ask Mind probing questions. Turn chapter heading into questions. Trust your superreading to give you enough from dipping. As I tried to explain. The problem is that speed readers won't slow down for a moment to get the PhotoReading system working by establishing a clear purpose (how am I going to use this) and asking mind probing questions that they never really move beyond speed reading every book that has an inkling of interest to that body mind connection where you PhotoRead a book and know you don't or do need to "read it." And move onto the sections that holds the gems that the conscious mind needs to be aware of to work with.

The conscious mind only knows for a fraction of the moment. Then it jumps to other thoughts. The question is is this what you needed to know in the moment? How does it serve you even having had conscious awareness of the idea that you read?

I suggest you spend only 15 minutes with a few books. In that time prepare, preview, PhotoRead and postview the book.

AlexK