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Oh God.
The moon landing was not fake. Each one of the arguments posed in the link you gave has an explanation, it's just that you and the author are too blinded to actually bother looking it up.
Found a small problem that's already been explained, but you haven't heard it? Oh, then the whole thing must be fake, no?

And if that's one of YOUR arguments for why photoreading doesn't work, get off the forums already ZMasterNCreator.

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 Originally Posted By: AndriDem
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Is it possible that we could PR without knowing about these steps? If someone would tell us that PR works without the page flipping step, would not it be the same result? A friend of mine did this experiment and he did pretty well without getting into states)) He just activated the book...


Alright, if A: you mean, not opening the book at all or B: you mean 'no special focus of the eyes' such the 'x' techniques or looking beyond the page and/or seeing the middle third page.

A: The answer may well surprise you.

B: Yes, no special focus is required of the eyes, EXCEPT they are extremely needful and even necessary to most people who have not enough or adequate metaphysical training or mental discipline or experience with, and some mastery of meditation.

The why is 'attention' in a word but a book could called forth to spell out the reason in detail.

It is beyond the scope of the Photoreading course of LSC to elaborate on the first point A.

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I mean A.

A friend of mine just oppened the book. Asked himself questions and just Super Read the book and he did pretty well) I was surprised)) The whole concept of this course was really based on this page flipping stage))

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I mean A.

A friend of mine just oppened the book. Asked himself questions and just Super Read the book and he did pretty well) I was surprised)) The whole concept of this course was really based on this page flipping stage))


That would come under the heading of 'following intuition'.

And it works with all things. And many live like that.

He could add the 'turn the pages as he spoke positive statements' to great advantage.

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Oh God.
The moon landing was not fake. Each one of the arguments posed in the link you gave has an explanation, it's just that you and the author are too blinded to actually bother looking it up.
Found a small problem that's already been explained, but you haven't heard it? Oh, then the whole thing must be fake, no?

And if that's one of YOUR arguments for why photoreading doesn't work, get off the forums already ZMasterNCreator.


You're absolutely right jacktuff. Photoreading absolutely works, but you've got to be in fantasy land imagining it works.

haha i'd love to get off learning strategie's forum but they won't let me delete my account. I've even suggested for my account to be deleted and it hasn't been deleted eventhough I wrote a thread saying fuuck learning strategies corporation. I don't think this forum wants me to leave.

I already know photoreading is garbage and you cannot convince me or anyone that it works. Another thing you can't do is PROVE that it works.

I've spent almost 3 years on photoreading following all the steps and it didn't work. It's only my opinion and I don't expect you to take it to heart. The best thing you can do to see if photoreading really works is look for proof because proof shows it works.

I'll have a huge amount of respect for anyone to prove me wrong. If you can't then you can take your photoreading book and shove it along with the dictionary, tapes and other junk you've wasted your money on.

If you want to waste your money go to a casino. Atleast you get high off the oxygen that's pumped while you are playing games that can make you feel more alive especially when you lose.

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Is this a good time to tell you 'fantasy' is as real as it gets in any universe; as the whole thing is 'conjured'.

All the earth heavens are 'fantasy lands' molded over millions of years by its inhabitants... ...and not one is eternal.

You would do well to learn to live by the 'laws of fantasy'.

LSC can take care of itself and those of us who know how to use tools use them.

So called reality is created and maintained by the strong; while the rest are swept along and left wondering what happened, 'after the fact'.

Enjoy the 'wake'.

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Hahaha i've been living in my fantasies for a long time. I'm strong, so strong that i don't need learning strategies corporation. I've done better without any of their products.

People can decide for themselves and i've decided that learning strategies products don't work at all and i don't care what you say, i have my reasons. And yes i'm going to go around telling people that it doesn't work because i'm not going to conform with the rest of the people who tell people to believe it works. I'm using another part of my brain by doing this and this will create more neuro pathways because i'm not always stimulating the part of my brain that says believe believe! All companies want you to believe in their products but what learning strateges is doing is counter-intuitive. They are putting the blame on you for not believening in their products rather than you asking why you should believe them. I don't want other people to go through what i've been through. There have been people in the past that have missused positive suggestion to get people to do wierd things. Cults do exist and I know why people have a hard time leaving them. Why do people in cults sound all cheery and too happy when they talk?

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Good luck on your Crusade!

From my point of view ALL major religions are cults.

Fire away.

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AndriDem wrote:

'Is it possible that we could PR without knowing about these steps? If someone would tell us that PR works without the page flipping step, would not it be the same result? A friend of mine did this experiment and he did pretty well without getting into states)) He just activated the book... '

I do believe you have it nicely surrounded there!

A few years ago, Pete was all pleased with himself, and recounted a story of how he'd Photoread a Japanese character dictionary, to find out the meaning of the kanji on the T-shirt he'd bought (or that someone had given him). His finding of the word in kanji, which happened to be 'ichiban' meaning 'the first' or 'the best' was supposed to demonstrate the miracle of Photoreading. The first character in virtually any kanji guide (following the order of kanji as they are presented educationally) is 'ichi', the first element in the word he was looking for and the easiest to write, therefore it appears at the beginning of the dictionary. What's more, it often occurs as a sample compound with - guess what - the other character that makes up the word. I mean, you open the book to page one, find what you want, and them claim 'It's Photoreading at work! A miracle to be sure!' My arse!

I pointed out at the time, it wasn't such a feat. I got no reply, unsurprisingly.

What would be a convincing feat would be if, for example, I were to ask him what kanji number 1336, meant, what the 'on' and 'kun' readings are, and to recall, from memory, all the componds presented with that kanji. I'd also expect to be able to show Pete a kanji, and for him to be able to identify its meaning, readings and componds, oh and its official number and hey, where it is on the page. If this system really does ignite one's genius, then I'd expect him to be able to do this. Can he? I doubt it!

I guess he'd have to go back to the dictionary and flick through, thus 'activating' the material. In other words, he'd have to go back and look for it consciously, which is what people do anyway. It's good, old-fashioned 'skim reading', which the mind seems perfectly capable of. You can pick up a lot of skimmed information from a book in 2 hours (the activation time) and make as much sense of it as someone who had Photoread it.

This is where PR really falls flat on its face for me. It is stated that only 4 to 11% of the information in any book is useful - a silly claim any way you look at it! A language course, however, is a different story altogether. You want all that information with conscious recall of it, yet Photoreading doesn't promise that. It doesn't promise anything like that, so what good is it?

The more I read this thread, the more I'm doubting the efficacy of PR, and the people who are touting it so vehemently. I think there is a marketing 'con job' going on here at some level. I feel like I did when I tested 'Superlearning'. What a joke that was!

ZMNC, I, too, find Pete's new, aggressive marketing distasteful. It reminds me of the style of the money-obsessed bottom-dwellers who have dominated Internet Marketing with their constant hard-sell promotions. Competition on the Net is rife, so you have to use every tactic you can to convince people to buy. All the IM bottom-dwellers will tell you this, from Joe Soprano to Jay Conrad Levenson. Sell, sell sell! This includes the good old 'social proof' factor. Obviously, you've got to follow suit, and tout your wares in such a competetive environment, so I do see why Pete is taking this approach.

However, with that in mind, and his constant, pushy marketing, is he really going to say, 'OK, well we have all these videos of people demonstrating Photoreading, but we're going to keep them hidden away in the vaults because we don't want to come over all conceited, now do we? Let's hide them and leave them all guessing.'

Doesn't quite jive, does it? If they were available, he'd have used them for sure!

Not being a Photoreader, and of course, using my skill of 'reading' which is impossible, apparently, I missed this, posted By ZMNC when I posted my last post:

'To truly master PhotoReading, you should try the PhotoReading Personal
Learning Course. This comprehensive course will teach you to master
these and far more effective techniques to increase your reading speed up
to 25,000 words per minute or more.'

I don't know where this comes from, exactly, but it says Paul Scheele wrote it! If it is, then (1) this refers to 'reading' speed, yet Alex claims that reading is impossible. (oops!) and (2) it says you can increase your reading speed up to 25,000 words per minute, yet Alex states that such speeds are not possible. (oops again!)

The credibility of PR is coming under fire here, and has been on Amazon for several years now. Don't you think it would be in your best interests to decide exactly what you're going to present as your truth to the general public, because as it stands, the lack of real evidence of PR's 'amazing' power, punctuated by these blatant contradictions, is making it obvious to me that something is amiss here.

I am still convinced of the power of the mind, but less and less in the benefits of Photoreading, as the way to activate it. I think it's a gimmick, and I'm not seeing any real proof that I'm wrong.

Maybe Photoreading does work: it gets you to skim read a book for information, and then believe that you've done something new and amazing. Placebos work too!

What was it Woody Allen said?

'I speed-read 'War And Peace' in 20 minutes...

...it's about Russia'

Something familiar there!

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For you,

...you seem to have done right well talking yourself out of what you could turn to advantage.

I would admit the course could be re-written and put to a more logical footing especially as regard all marketing claims.

However, I take the base idea and develop it in another direction anyway, one I am very familiar with; mysticism.

Most people are 'ruined' by normal reading education long before they leave schooling. One renowned genius declared long ago; you need get your children out of school by 8th grade or being a genius could be lost to them. Or they need be held out when young and taught how to think and develop out their intuition as first law of their being before preceding with much education.

Breaking the bind of sub-vocalization, is the slippery key.

Good Fortune mastering same.

It ain't easy, the old Professor said, 'It ain't easy' he mumbles yet again...

...'it ain't easy...'

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