I am finding this thread very interesting to follow. About 15 years ago, I went thru a horrible divorce and lost my house. About that time, I discovered Tony Robbins material. I bought his Personal Power tapes, even tho I could barely afford to live. The tapes talked about how Tony used the methods to move from his 400 square foot apartment, into a castle on the ocean. I went thru the program many times. I know that some people used the methods and they really worked for them. Did they work for me? My life gradually improved. Would it have anyway? Probably. Why do these things appear to work for some and not others? I don't know. I do feel that the LSC does have better programs than alot of the stuff out there. I would love to see this discussion continue!