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Originally posted by babayada:
Garics,

Your are welcome to your opinions as to any characterization of my reasoning. Though I don't know if it will lead to an accurate assessment of Tony Robbins.

As I see it, the only thing my last post evidences is that I don't feel that I need to explain myself by answering a barrage of questions.

If Tony Robbins represents what you want to model in your life, then you best take a good look at him. In my estimation, he is extremely opportunistic. He is about one thing in his rhetoric and about another in his behavior. This, to me, is particularly signficant because he goes on and on about congruence and walking your talk.

He stands on the shoulders of giants and puts his name on their work at worst or neglects to mention them. People talk about "Tony's techniques" when they are actually referring to work by Richard Bandler, Robert Dilts, John Grinder, Milton Erickson, et al.

He may be a savvy businessman, but he is no intellectual. Many of his ideas are simply marketed re-workings of things that are actually much more sophisticated, powerful, subtle, and nuanced in their original forms.

If, however, you find his life and actions to represent something different than I do, then you see a different Robbins. I do not feel it's my responsibility to go in depth and explicate and deconstruct my perception of him for anyone.

Go to one or a few of his seminars, sense his energy, look at the facts of his life, and come to your own conclusions. Your results will be stronger for you than anything I can say here.

[This message has been edited by babayada (edited January 18, 2005).]

I failed to acknowledge in the last post that I actually agree with a lot of your sentiments about TR. You are definitely right that he's not an intellectual, he doesn't seem to have a very sophisticated understanding (unlike Bandler) of the underlying theory if the methods he uses.

Also, yes, he's full of a lot of hype much of which he can't back up. I think his strategic positivity is part of what attracts lots of people to him though.

Anyway, I guess I was just trying to say that a lot of your critique made sense to me but the very last part sounded a little bit like a personal attack, and I was trying to make a distinction between those two Sorry if this wasn't clearer.

BTW my name's Garic not Garics


[This message has been edited by garics (edited January 18, 2005).]

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