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Originally posted by babayada:

It wasn't simply an attitude of theirs or mine that did it. They had to DO specific things with their minds, bodies, and energy systems to do it.


Well that's the key distinction then, isn't it?

I wasn't sure you were clear on this, because of the reference to Buddhist practioners. A legitimate Buddhist practice is a discipline of body, mind, emotions, and breath; it certainly amounts to a lot more than changing one's mindset or beliefs.

The same goes for a lot of manifestation programs available commerically or in books. It is a specific process for visualizing, one of the key components being to visualize with energy, i.e. feeling emotion as part of the visualization.

Of course there is a huge variation in how technical or sophisticated these different systems can get.

Pretty much every time I've heard a version of this recipe, whether from Napoleon Hill, Jonathan Parker, or a more esoteric source, concrete effort in the world is always emphasized as a necessary ingredient of the process.