well alex you have been a great help but the page 42thing.. i read it and tried it bt it just doesnt work... im always very tense i think that may be the problem any quicker or easier ways. you know of.. and also.. that imagine a flower in the minds eye??? that makes no sense to me.. and i dont know whqat your eamil is but im very interested in that doctor thing you have.. is it proven .. since i dont have your email could you mail it to me.. CallSignBishop@hotmail.com i would appreciate it well im off to work out... Glad my somking amendment got passed i am perhaps learning strategies will recieve a tremendous boost in there stop smoking paraliminal tape sales haha later everyone