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If the universe were left entirely to "scientists" we'd still
think it was flat, and that the Sun rotates around the Earth. That's what
scientists once thought.




Actually, such were the beliefs of ancient philosophers. Scientists were
the ones who "corrected" these mis-beliefs. Also, believe it or not, the
Flat Earth Society is still strong today, and their belief is based on
authoritative scriptures, not on physical evidence (which science upholds
above authority).

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Do we need science? Of course we do, but not as an orthodox
church, fundamental and unbending. The best and most significant
discoveries throughout the ages have always flown in the face of the
"science" of the times, and sometimes resulted in the discoverer being
jailed or even having his/her life threatened.




This is an amusing mixing of facts. First, science is not a "church."
It is not anything remotely similar to a church. I believe I expounded on
the distinction quite extensively in a previous post. To draw this
analogy betrays a fundamental misunderstanding of what science is.

Second, scientific discoverers have been persecuted by authoritative
entities such as the Catholic Church. Validated scientific discoveries
have always been honored and hailed by those within the scientific
establishment. To suggest otherwise betrays a fundamental lack of
historical knowledge.

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Bless the scientists, but also bless those who dare to question
them.




What I find most amusing about this particular forum community is that
there are hundreds of postings which laud and support the most far-out
ideas, but at the same time, vehemently attack those who would rationally
question these things. And these are the same folks who regard anything
"scientific" as questionable and worthy of challenge. Gee, something
seems seriously lopsided here!

Anyway, science THRIVES upon challenge, and it REQUIRES evidence. If only
you could see it at work (rather than heed all that mis-information
propagated by all those anti-scientific agenda pushers), you would be much
less eager to tear it apart.

Personally, I've found that the average scientist is MUCH more honorable
than the average mystic. In my experience, the former is more interested
in discovering truth, while the later is more interested in bilking a
gullible audience out of their money.