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Thanks for sharing your experience. I have no experience with this since "holy" people
never interested me.

I know someone in Colorado, his name is Samuel Avital. His can read the body language like a book. He told me that he had
visited some of this "holy/enlightend" people on courses and retreats. What he saw
was that the body language told a different story then their words.

Of course, this should not be so for every
"holy" people but I have a natural distrust for self-styled gurus.

Tony