Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman


2. I'm not sure at least some the things I was asked to do in the Silva Method had anything to do with visualization. For
instance, having my consciousness (or something) and go into the wall, feeling everything there, smelling everything there, etc., or floating up toward the ceiling, through the ceiling, and on up, etc. I have no memories of those kinds of things. I'm assuming this is more in the realm of I-don't-know-what.


That's creative imagination for most of us.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
If you saw what the eye actually sees you'd be surprised at your eyes open visualisation skills.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I'm not exactly sure what you're referring to here. What are open visualization skills in reference to the rest of the sentence? Thanks.


The eyes themselves record very little information. The brain paints everything you see. It fills in a lot of detail. You may have heard of the blind spot. Well it doesn't just fill in that little spot. This goes into the subject of biology of the working of the brain and what the eye perceive. Have you ever searched for something like a set of keys and then found them were you looked more than once? That's because your brain didn't include the information of the keys when it painted the picture in your mind. And then when you finally found them it included it in the painting.

A more profound demonstration of the brains deletion capability is mentioned in the book the Holographic Universe. Author, Michael Talbot.

What it comes down to, it's all a creation within the brain.


Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
As I said the skill severely atrophies as we get older and by the age of 40 most have very little skill seeing eyes closed visualising.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
What causes it to never have existed?


That's an interesting question, the answer is language, once we start speaking and labelling things like chair, table, ball. As you know each of those items can be vastly different yet they have been categorized with our speech. Because relying on the visual, to communicate is so slow, super processor part of our mind deletes and jumps to answers. If we had to rely on an eidetic memory while answering test questions in the time we have available we'd fail to get it done in time. Instead the brain has sorted the information dropping much of the unnecessary visual to leap to the answer, so when you think of something like a red car, the mind will jump to the first red car you can think of, it may be an Audi or a Ford or a car you know belongs to someone. That becomes your visual for a red car.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
There are techniques that can recover the skill, thankfully the proof of our brains neuroplasticity is helping more to "believe" that they can acquire the skill again.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
Not sure what neuroplasticity is. I don't know if I believe I can acquire the skill for the first time or not, although, I have had those incidences I mentioned in my last post. However, I do seem to be somewhat in a drought recently. Nothing's been happening in that visualization place, which is not behind the eyeballs.


Neuroplasticity refers to the brains ability to change, a basic example of this is the ability to recover from stroke, it may be a long slow path but to some degree or another the brain finds a way to work around the damage.


Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
One method is to play with the technique taught in the Genius Code Course yes in the beginning the images seem more vague but they do develop more minds eye clarity.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I checked out the Genius Code and, unfortunately, it's out of my wallet's skill set.
Check out Win Wengers website, in particular Image Streaming. That's a good place to start.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
Another technique that enhances visualisation skills is is to stand in front of a picture and then close your eyes to see it. It too helps to describe it out loud.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
Do you mean describe it when my eyes are open or when they're shut? If you mean when they're shut, then it will be a very short description because I've never been able to "see" anything after doing that, either behind my eyeballs or in the visualization place.


Describe with the eyes shut, you can open them to have a look what you missed and close them and repeat the process. Most people don't see it when they first try it. That's normal that's why it takes the effort of standing, in front of the picture and then describing what the picture was of. Say it was a still life, you'd probably start by saying it was a vase with flowers. Take it from there.

Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
Besides that, I don't know how to find this visualization place. When it has appeared at all, it's been completely unbidden and so small that I can hardly make anything out. I've never been able to maintain the image or enlargen it.


That's where you play with image streaming. You do it. It's like building a house you take it brick by brick, you don't just pick up a whole pile of bricks and toss them in the air and a house is formed. You take what you can do and build on that.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
A Silva Instructor challenged someone difficulty visualising to do this 10 minutes. It was interesting when that person returned from the break reported it became a bit easier. This instructor also took the fruit exercise from the course further.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
If I can discipline myself to do something like this for 10 minutes, I'll give it a try. With the lack of focus and attention span that comes with ADD, it's hard for me to sit still that long, especially if I don't get immediate results.


Don't sit, stand. Do it any time. if you see a photo, take a mental snapshot and describe the photo. Don't worry you'll leave out a lot of detail. Excuses or the same amount of discipline it took you to go through the post. It's your choice but you cannot convince me that you haven't got attention span. We wouldn't be posting this to each other if you didn't have that.

Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
It's been tough that way for me, pretty much as far back as I can remember, which isn't far. The memory of my past pretty much escapes me, except little tidbits that come when I'm reminded of something. Maybe that's one reason why I have trouble with visualization: because I have trouble with memory recall.


Perhaps the effort of learning to visualise using some of the techniques I suggested will trigger the neuroplasticity of the brain and you'll have a better memory too.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
With your minds eye bring in a knife or sword, make the handle of the sword ornate and then cut the apple in half and if you do it with a good swing...


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I don't know how to do this. Yet, even as I spoke, I sort of did it, but not all the ornate stuff. I didn't "see" anything and my eyes were even open at the time. I was looking slightly down and to the left and whatever happened was farther out to my left. Weird. No color, no anything.


Because in reality it isn't there, it's only with the memory and imagination that we can visualise.

Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I can do it with my eyes closed as well - in the middle of my head, I think. I can swing a make-believe knife onto a make-believe apple and put the blade through the apple, but it seems I have to mentally push at the apple to get it to fall over on each side, one side at a time. I guess that's progress.


That's my point exactly, it's possible and yes it's progress.



Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
The Silva secret. The fundamental 3

Desire, Belief EXPECTATION

I emphasise expectation because unless we expect to succeed we won't. We get exactly what we expect.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I don't know where I am with that. The desire's there.
Without the expectation, your desire won't be strong enough. You can either do or not do, there is no try. To try means that you expect to fail, not to succeed. So forget trying and make the decision to either do, or not do.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
You fake it until you make it. You trust what you're getting and run with it. Take it from there where you are. Right now you're analysing it into the bin. Yet I think you're throwing it away too soon.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I don't know how to fake smelling stuff, or fake feeling stuff, or hearing hearing stuff, which is what you were referring to. I am very analytical, that's for sure, but I'm not sure what you mean by your last two sentences.


Well I could put it another way, You talk, you haven't got around to doing. You theorise, you haven't test the theory.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
With your post, I'm getting the understanding that you're looking to get the visualisation skills right to succeed manifesting using the Silva Method.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
Not exactly. What frustrated me even more than not being able to visualize was not being able to move my consciousness out of my head, as in the two examples I mentioned earlier-the wall thing and the ceiling thing. Matrix Energetics requires one to move down into the heart space. It's fake it till you make it there, too, and I fake it, but my consciousness still remains in my head.


Forget consciousness, use awareness. Try this. Hold your hands out in front of you, palms facing each other. Look at, put your awareness into the area between the hands. Look at that space, focus on that space, Move your hands closer together and further apart to test your awareness. It's just a place where your attention goes. Now move your hands up to the sides of your face, either side without touching your face, now notice narrow focus, your awareness centred between your hands and then move your hands away, notice the room that you're in. You have now learned how to use awareness.

Now use this technique to bring your awareness to your heart. (I find this better than visualising to get to my heart awareness) Take your hand and hold it palm down just above your eyebrows. Become aware of the space just below the palm. And you can have the other hand at the belly level palm facing up. Now become aware of the space between your two hands. Now move your hands and keep your awareness in that space between the two so that they come about 20cm (6 inches) apart near the heart area. Now your awareness is at the heart level. Notice your awareness there and you can then move your hands away. If you've done this without rushing, you're awareness can remain at the heart area. Think of it like switching on a light. You've turned it on.

It's like the brain damage, which did damage (I don't know how much) to the basal ganglia and perhaps other areas in the central part of my brain, has caused a disconnect between the right and left hemispheres of my brain. I've felt this for a long, long time.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
What I've worked out, is we visualise and we visualise well, we just do it to sonic fast for our conscious mind. And we need to slow it down. That's were visualising fruit against a black background is a good place to start. Because fruit looks appetising against a black background and it's traditionally painted that way. Try looking at an orange against an orange background and then change it to pink.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
There's the rub: slowing it down. If I can imagine anything at all, everything is all black—the apple, the background, the knife. Everything. There is no changing color because there is no color.
How did you get an apple if it's all black? It's a matter of attention. The details are show up. You get to decide whether it's a red apple or green apple big or small shiny or dull.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
Another way to develop visualising skills and this is one for those who want to develop their intuitive psychic skills is to actually put the fruit in front of you. Study it, memorise it. Feel it, smell it and memorise that. Notice also your feelings, what energy, imagine if you will, do you sense. If you could see it what do you think it would look like.

What you're doing is creating a database and reference point.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I can see the sense in this. I'll have to try it. The feelings part, I'm not so sure about. I've never been able to call up past feelings and this is one reason I've never really had much, if any, success with Gary Craig's EFT.


EFT hasn't been a strong point with me either. I prefer to let go of the past.

Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
The only energy I've ever been able to sense is from rubbing my hands together till they get heated up and then do the expanded ball exercise. Sometimes I can feel the energy ball when I bring my hands together, but most of the time I don't.


Focus on when you were successful, what was going on then, how were you feeling, what were your emotions. Look at stuff like that. You'll notice that something comes into play when you succeed that's not there when you fail. It might just be a more playful attitude or even I don't care or I'm just making this up but that's okay because I think something is happening.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
Like going into the metal and leaf exercise in the Silva course. They create reference points. For what you perceive. Then you will have more clarity when see, smell,hear touch what you create with the minds eye (visualise).


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
]The metal and leaf exercises are vaguely vague in my memory, although I don't recall actually physically handling either. The instructor cut down the five-day course into three days, so I'm sure some things were cut down, if not left out.


That's disappointing, it's the part the students feel most self-conscious about and yet you cannot do it wrong. It helps when you actually hold and compare different metals, just building conscious awareness how different a few metals are to each other, in terms of texture, weight colour and even smell makes a difference to what you bring into the visualisations. The same with leaves. I recommend getting a few leaves and a few different metals and comparing them to each other sometime.

Originally Posted By: Alex K. Viefhaus
Without that database you preconscious processor removes what it doesn't recognise.


Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I'm not certain what all that means.

Without the conscious input the mind has no references to compare with or to recall. A phrase the instructor would often use is Points of Reference. It's like finding a ruler to measure a piece of string.

Originally Posted By: Cris Coleman
I'm sorry it took so long to get back with you, but I missed the email that told me you had answered, and I just happened to stumble across it while deleting a lot of unopened email.

Lastly, thank you for your welcome back. smile


Thank you for giving me a chance to share what I have learned so far.

Alex